"At the time I was very interested in drugs. Drugs was chic." Blondie's Debbie Harry on the 'fashionable' drug scene she found in 1960s New York

Debbie Harry at Studio 54
Debbie Harry (centre) with friends at Studio 54, June 1979 (Image credit: Sonia Moskowitz/Getty Images)

Before she found fame with Blondie, in the 1960s Debbie Harry was a waitress at Max's Kansas City and a Bunny Girl at the Playboy Club in Manhattan, giving her the opportunity to mix with artists, writers, models, rock stars, film directors and all manner of creative types. "It was all very middle-class," she recalled in a 1993 interview with Q magazine. "You were considered an asset."

As she developed friendships and connections in the city, the New Jersey-raised singer fell into Manhattan's colourful, bohemian, avant-garde art world, where the normal rules governing 'straight' society did not apply.

"Drugs was chic," Harry recalled to Q's Tom Hibbert. "Everybody in New York was fooling around with drugs. That's just what the scene was like. It wasn't like today where everybody knows what the implications are and what the results are. It was just a very small, elitist art world. Up in a loft. Look at my pictures! Aren't they neat? Yeah? OK, let's do some drugs to celebrate, then. It was just a fashionable situation. The stockbrokers weren't doing cocaine, only we were doing cocaine. It was just for freaks, and the quantities that are available now weren't available then. It was the 1960s, man.

"I was doing heroin," she revealed. "I was taking a serious addictive substance. Actually, I should say, was taking several serious addictive substances. Plural. But, you know, at that time it was part of the scene. Everything was like, Hey, man, this is the latest drug and this is the newest drug and here comes the next drug and you really ought to try this! So I tried it. Whatever it was."

Post-fame, Harry's drug taking became less care-free and innocent, as she and her partner, Blondie guitarist Chris Stein, lost everything in the early 1980s and developed serious heroin addictions.

"I think at that point it was a necessary evil," the singer recalled in a 2019 interview with The Guardian. "To some degree, it was self-medicating. It was a rough, depressing time of life and it seemed to suit the purpose, but then it outlived its benefits."

Those days are long in the past. In a new interview with The Times, Harry says her only chemical intake as she approaches her 80th birthday is H2O, water.

"I’m pretty clean," she tells The Times. "But I have a dirty mind."

Paul Brannigan
Contributing Editor, Louder

A music writer since 1993, formerly Editor of Kerrang! and Planet Rock magazine (RIP), Paul Brannigan is a Contributing Editor to Louder. Having previously written books on Lemmy, Dave Grohl (the Sunday Times best-seller This Is A Call) and Metallica (Birth School Metallica Death, co-authored with Ian Winwood), his Eddie Van Halen biography (Eruption in the UK, Unchained in the US) emerged in 2021. He has written for Rolling Stone, Mojo and Q, hung out with Fugazi at Dischord House, flown on Ozzy Osbourne's private jet, played Angus Young's Gibson SG, and interviewed everyone from Aerosmith and Beastie Boys to Young Gods and ZZ Top. Born in the North of Ireland, Brannigan lives in North London and supports The Arsenal.