It's a lively time to be a Journey fan, with Jonathan Cain suing Neal Schon as the pair tour together and frontman Arnel Pineda inviting fans to vote him out of the band, but it's worth remembering that Journey's, uhm, journey has always been eventful.
Back in 2012 Schon described recent events in his life as “really out there”, as a bizarre story circulated involving his then-girlfriend (now wife), reality TV star Michaele Salahi, and her ex-husband Tareq.
The Salahis separated in 2011 after Michaele ran off with Schon, amid claims from Tareq that his wife had been kidnapped, and that the guitarist had texted him pictures of his genitalia and boasted: “I’m fucking your wife”. Tareq also filed a $50m lawsuit against Schon, alleging “outrageous and intolerable conduct”, although it was swiftly settled.
As if all that wasn’t enough, Schon had also been let down by a former bandmate. John Waite, singer for Schon’s 80s supergroup Bad English, had dissed Journey’s music as “super-white” and stated that he would rather shoot himself than re-form Bad English.
Naturally enough, we asked him about it all that year.
You’ve been in the news a lot lately.
Yeah. In the last year I’ve learned a lot about the media that I never knew. I didn’t ask for it, it just kind of happened. But I’ve gone along with it. You get smarter about it, and instead of being manipulated by the media you start thinking one step ahead of them.
Has this been a traumatic time for you?
It’s a bit traumatic if you wake up and you turn on the TV and there’s a story about a picture of your penis on ABC News – Good Morning America! I’m like: “This is so silly”. I’ve never experienced anything quite like this. But you have to just brush it off.
What exactly was this story about your penis?
I don’t really want to get into it, but Michaele’s ex- had a picture that he claimed I sent to him – which I never did. And he claimed he had a voice message from me telling him that I was fucking his wife – and that was not me either. If you listen to the voice, it sounds like somebody from Australia. But the media will believe anything so long as it’s a catchy story. And all of a sudden, bam, it’s everywhere.
And what about the lawsuit? Bad English had a song called Price Of Love, but you surely didn’t think that price was $50m?
You mean the 50-cent lawsuit? [laughs] You know, I was never worried about the $50 million. But I’m glad it’s over. And some good things have come out of this whole thing. I meet people and they’re like: “God, you deal with a lot of crazy aspects in your life right now, and I really commend you for holding it together so well”.
What did you make of what John Waite said about Journey – that the music was “super-white” and “just wrong”?
I got a good chuckle out of it, man. I mean, John is a great guy. I love John. He’s always been tremendously talented. I know he considers himself a poet, and I loved working with him when I did. But to say that Journey is ultra-white is really off the wall.
It’s also tough on Journey’s former singer, Steve Perry, who idolised soul singers such as Sam Cooke and Otis Redding.
John Waite is a very cool singer. But if I had to put Steve Perry’s voice next to Waite’s… I’ll tell you, I can hear a lot of R&B in Steve Perry, and I know exactly where it came from – Otis, Sam, Jackie Wilson.
Waite also said he’d rather shoot himself than do a Bad English reunion. Which of those options do you think he should take?
I think maybe John Waite has got a few chips on his shoulder. Whatever’s not right in his life, I think he should change it.
You’ve worked with so many different artists over the years. Who was the strangest?
Michael Bolton was a little eccentric. I played the blues guitar solo on his version of (Sittin’ On) The Dock Of The Bay, and Bolton made me re-do my solo about 200 times.
Is it true that Journey considered Michael Bolton as a replacement for Steve Perry back in the late 80s?
We thought about it for a second. Michael definitely had pipes – he was pretty bionic when I worked with him. But even then there was a lot of personality clashing. I didn’t feel that we would get too far, that’s all I can tell you.
When did you last speak with Steve Perry?
The last time I spoke to him face to face was when we did the Hollywood Walk Of Fame eight years ago.
And was it a good conversation?
It was. But there were so many reporters around, it had to be. To this day I don’t understand why we can’t just pick up the phone and talk.
But Journey lives on without Steve Perry.
You know, a lot of people thought that us going on without him would be the kiss of death. And it was a long, hard ride back. But now, here we are with Arnel [Pineda, vocalist], and things are going amazing for us. It goes to show that if you really want to do something, you can succeed regardless of what anyone says.
This was first published in Classic Rock issue 176, published in October 2012.