“Our producer chopped down the songs to four minutes… the originals were much longer and stretched out”: King Crimson fan and Saxon vocalist Biff Byford narrowly missed out on being a prog musician

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In 2019 Saxon vocalist Biff Byford explained that if he’d had his way, the NWOBHM giants could have been a prog band, and how the music of King Crimson blew him away – and still plays a role in his work today.


“I was about 18 when In The Court Of The Crimson King came out. I think me and [Saxon guitarist] Paul Quinn were browsing through the vinyl at our local record shop when we found the cover with the face on. Before that I was more into pop rock, like The Kinks.

It really caught me at a time when everything was more bluesy. It was really inspirational, especially 21st Century Schizoid Man; my friends who were all musicians were like, ‘Whoah, that riff!’ That and Black Sabbath were the forerunners of heavy, dark riffs, and long tracks with lots of different time signatures in them.

I was playing bass at the time and we tried to learn the time signatures but failed miserably. It’s quite hard stuff! I did have Larks’ Tongues In Aspic as well, but Crimson King was the one that blasted into my psyche. We still play it in soundcheck to this day.

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If me and Paul had got signed as our early band Coast, we could have been a prog band. The first Saxon album had quite a proggy feel to it – but our producer chopped down quite a lot of the songs to three or four minutes, whereas the original ones were much longer and stretched out into different signatures.

We did end up covering In The Court Of The King Crimson on [2001 album] Killing Ground. A lot of people have done 21st Century Schizoid Man – I wanted to do something different, and it came out really good.

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Robert Fripp has written some great music. When you think of King Crimson, he comes straight to mind. He’s still out there and still doing it; he’s one of the great survivors, like we are.

Our other guitarist Doug Scarratt is a big Fripp fan, too, and we know [Fripp’s wife] Toyah from our first era with [drummer] Nigel Glockler. I’m a big fan of Yes and Genesis as well. Right now, I’m doing my solo album with Fredrik Åkesson from Opeth. We’ve written a couple of prog tracks for it too; I’m still into that music.”

Natasha Scharf
Deputy Editor, Prog

Contributing to Prog since the very first issue, writer and broadcaster Natasha Scharf was the magazine’s News Editor before she took up her current role of Deputy Editor, and has interviewed some of the best-known acts in the progressive music world from ELP, Yes and Marillion to Nightwish, Dream Theater and TesseracT. Starting young, she set up her first music fanzine in the late 80s and became a regular contributor to local newspapers and magazines over the next decade. The 00s would see her running the dark music magazine, Meltdown, as well as contributing to Metal Hammer, Classic Rock, Terrorizer and Artrocker. Author of music subculture books The Art Of Gothic and Worldwide Gothic, she’s since written album sleeve notes for Cherry Red, and also co-wrote Tarja Turunen’s memoirs, Singing In My Blood. Beyond the written word, Natasha has spent several decades as a club DJ, spinning tunes at aftershow parties for Metallica, Motörhead and Nine Inch Nails. She’s currently the only member of the Prog team to have appeared on the magazine’s cover.